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jseal 07-17-2004 10:04 AM

PantyFanatic,

It is all too true that Law ≤ Justice. Justice has the luxury of being abstract. Law is limited by reality.

If you’ll agree that a defendant is innocent until proved guilty, then examining the details of the case is in the best interests of justice. Can there be extenuating circumstances which should be considered? If so, what might they be? How can a defendant’s extenuating circumstances in a case be considered independently of the defendant?

It may be an uninspired point of view, but I suspect that these outcomes have more to do with money than celebrity. Most celebrities are wealthy and can afford more and better legal support than mere mortals such as us.

Catch22 07-17-2004 10:39 AM

All the money she has made for the shares should be given to the poor. She should be given Community Service as we call it out here instead of jail. A year working for a soup kitchen or something.

Hello to all by the way!

PantyFanatic 07-17-2004 11:07 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jseal
...It may be an uninspired point of view, but I suspect that these outcomes have more to do with money than celebrity..

EVERYTHING in our society is about the money!
Isn't that why we escape to places like Pixies?

jseal 07-17-2004 11:13 AM

PantyFanatic,

No. I come here because I want to.

BIBI 07-17-2004 11:15 AM

Hi Catch22...long time, no see!

I believe that there always has been and always will be a double standard in the courts. This woman used her inside knowledge to forgo losses. Others didn't have the same choices as her. Her sentence is a joke....not a big deterrent in my opinion.

I surely won't buy any of her products.......not that I ever did! ;)

PantyFanatic 07-17-2004 11:18 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jseal
PantyFanatic,

No. I come here because I want to.

Good for you.

Catch22 07-17-2004 11:24 AM

Hello Bibi. :)

jseal 07-17-2004 11:55 AM

Catch22,

Long time no see. I trust life is treating you well.

Vigil 07-17-2004 11:57 AM

I have the advantage of never having heard of this Lady, nor am I bothered that she may be wealthy.

Personally I am sick amd tired of Agencies that I have never heard about demanding information from me.

If I have understood this - she got into a bad share deal and then used her contacts to get out with less loss and then lied to the "Feds" when quesioned about it?

For this understandable human frailty you have sent her to prison for five months. Well I'm with Lilith, there but for the grace of god go all of us. It seems to me that Judges, prosecuters and police love the limelight of celeb cases and try to make a name for themselves. I think that there is a nasty little side to us normal folk to like to see the rich and powerful knocked of their perches.

She would never have gone down for this in the UK.

Grumble 07-17-2004 12:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vigil
If I have understood this - she got into a bad share deal and then used her contacts to get out with less loss and then lied to the "Feds" when quesioned about it?

She would never have gone down for this in the UK.


The more I think of it the more I think she has been harshly dealt with. She didn't rob anyone, take a financial advantage - she actually was minimising her losses, hurt anyone but lied to investigators. People bash other and get lesser sentences. People who have been found guilty of manslaughter have been given lesser sentences. Is this truly justice? she is a high profile victim of a McCarthy like federal agency.

Put the real criminals in jail, not a 62 year old woman who has not hurt anyone. its a financial crime so fine her heavily.

Catch22 07-17-2004 01:01 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jseal
Catch22,

Long time no see. I trust life is treating you well.


I am still kicking.

BIBI 07-17-2004 01:58 PM

I wonder how the people who lost their life savings from this mess feel about her sentence. Just because she knows those in high places does not make her more privilged to the information she was provided with......She intentionally took a chance, thinking she would not get caught and now has to pay the price....

maddy 07-17-2004 02:30 PM

losses and gains of lifes savings are the risks you take when you play on wall street. Particularly when you dabble in riskier stocks, which ImClone was one.

BIBI 07-17-2004 02:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by maddy
losses and gains of lifes savings are the risks you take when you play on wall street. Particularly when you dabble in riskier stocks, which ImClone was one.


Any investment is taking a risk and I am sure everyone who invested was aware of the risk. But....

It is supposed to be an even playing field, not one where the rich friends are given an advantage just because of who they are!

rabbit 07-17-2004 02:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilith
If everyone who lied to the feds ( aka creative tax filing etc...) got 5 months we'd solve unemployment by hiring everyone as prison guards.


See...another reason why Bill Clinton should have been really punished for committing perjury...he would have helped reduced unemployment further!!!!! :p

(...trudging down to Lil's dungeon to receive my spanking....) :rolleyes:



rabbit


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